tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post112824094705183296..comments2023-10-29T05:58:31.737-04:00Comments on Tug's Blog: Culture of Corruption...tugboatcapnhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14751281215697965077noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128477029833477372005-10-04T21:50:00.000-04:002005-10-04T21:50:00.000-04:00tugboatcapn:Here'a another link on the ethical lap...tugboatcapn:<BR/><BR/>Here'a another link on the ethical lapses of Nazi Pelosi:<BR/><BR/>http://www.nlpc.org/pelosi.asp<BR/><BR/>As I said in my latest post on the Delay problem, we've all learned that standards for conduct and ethics are only meant to be applied to Republicans.Mike's Americahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01262938295909490454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128469285875944812005-10-04T19:41:00.000-04:002005-10-04T19:41:00.000-04:00But go right to left. (snicker).--ERBut go right to left. (snicker).<BR/><BR/>--ERErudite Redneckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04830721195868387265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128395385252602322005-10-03T23:09:00.000-04:002005-10-03T23:09:00.000-04:00See there...We're not all that far apart.See there...<BR/><BR/>We're not all that far apart.tugboatcapnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751281215697965077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128394607535825412005-10-03T22:56:00.000-04:002005-10-03T22:56:00.000-04:00Nope.Hang 'em all from the tallest tree.--ERNope.<BR/><BR/>Hang 'em all from the tallest tree.<BR/><BR/>--ERErudite Redneckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04830721195868387265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128393407809942082005-10-03T22:36:00.000-04:002005-10-03T22:36:00.000-04:00I totally agree, Mark.That is why I have said repe...I totally agree, Mark.<BR/><BR/>That is why I have said repeatedly:<BR/><BR/>Let's investigate. Let's drag the guilty parties into the light, and punish ALL of them, no matter WHAT their party affilliation.<BR/><BR/>I do not want dishonesty and corruption in my government.<BR/><BR/>When you have that, no one is free.<BR/><BR/>Do you question my thinking on that one, ER?tugboatcapnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751281215697965077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128392675302223622005-10-03T22:24:00.001-04:002005-10-03T22:24:00.001-04:00Since installing word verification I have had 1 sp...Since installing word verification I have had 1 spammer. I really thought i would not get any.<BR/><BR/> Tug, I don't really know if Delay is guilty of anything or not, but it is painfully obvious that he is far from the only one who has questionable associations.<BR/><BR/> In fact, if one were to do an extensive search I'll bet there isn't a Senator or Congressman in Washington that doesn't have a skeleton or two in the closet.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15633208787250567256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128392656110260592005-10-03T22:24:00.000-04:002005-10-03T22:24:00.000-04:00Come on, dude, I've never questioned your rights. ...Come on, dude, I've never questioned your rights. Just yer thinkin' ... :-)<BR/><BR/>And the only *mindless* rants I ever saw here were Bruiser's.<BR/><BR/>--ERErudite Redneckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04830721195868387265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128391449564361532005-10-03T22:04:00.000-04:002005-10-03T22:04:00.000-04:00And I have actually thought about installing a dru...And I have actually thought about installing a drunk test, but I have too much fun making fun of the spam.<BR/><BR/>Maybe later.<BR/><BR/>And ER, do not dismiss my post as a mindless rant.<BR/><BR/>I am sick of the treatment that Conservatives get lately.<BR/><BR/>We are not corrupt, simply because of our ideaology, and I have every right to point out the attempt to do so, and to call attention to the hypocracy of the effort being made by the people who are attempting it.tugboatcapnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751281215697965077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128382253693140682005-10-03T19:30:00.000-04:002005-10-03T19:30:00.000-04:00ER, I said myself that my opinion of the way the m...ER, I said myself that my opinion of the way the media treated Clinton as opposed to the way they treat President Bush could be a matter of perspective, so I stand by that comment.<BR/><BR/>And while we're on the subject of perspective, everybody wants to believe that the other side's guy is dirtier than their own guy, whether he is or not.<BR/>I remember how the News Media hated President Reagan, as well as the Hollywood Left, but I haven't heard him called "A mad criminal hypocrite" in a lot of years... <BR/><BR/>The difference is, we can look up Clinton's corruption in the court records...<BR/>If I'm not mistaken, he and Nixon are the only two modern Presidents who share that distinction (Which puts Clinton in pretty good company, all things considered.)<BR/><BR/>And yes Toad, that makes it all right.<BR/>The opinion of the President and all conservatives, as you know, is that there are WAY too many A-rabs in the world as it is. Anything that we can do to reduce the number of brown people in the world is a good thing. (said Tug, feeding Toad's paranoid partisan fantasies and delusions.)tugboatcapnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751281215697965077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128348368533381922005-10-03T10:06:00.000-04:002005-10-03T10:06:00.000-04:00But killing a bunch of Arabs who had nothing to do...But killing a bunch of Arabs who had nothing to do with 9/11 is ok as long as you can blame your lie on the British.Is that what you are saying? Just because he had more "friends" under investigation just proves how dirty Republicans are and that they are the true party of corrupt partisan politics.Toad734https://www.blogger.com/profile/01450263690181812924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128343844494869002005-10-03T08:50:00.000-04:002005-10-03T08:50:00.000-04:00Just lettin' you blow steam, Tug.Of course, I thin...Just lettin' you blow steam, Tug.<BR/><BR/>Of course, I think your assessment of how the MSM treated Brer Clinton is way off.<BR/><BR/>Something to remember, though: 24/7 cable newws was still feeling its way back then; the Internet wasn't what it is now; Drudge drove a stake in Clinton at every opportunity. In fact, I think the concept of "the media" has changed so much, so fast, since 1993, it'd be pretty dang hard to compare 1983 media with 1993 media with present media.<BR/><BR/>And, of course, there is corruption on all sides of the aisle. Sin abounds. That doesn't mean we should all just keep quiet about it.<BR/><BR/>Also, read some more history, boys; this kind of thing didn't start in our lifetime. Ol' Andy Jackson got called way, way worse. But then it didn't start with him, either. Twas always thus in this country's politics.<BR/><BR/>For myself, though: What keeps me warm is the anger and resentment I still feel for the way Brer Clinton was treated from Day One by the Righty Rights. What REALLY sustains me, though, through news cycles, election cycles and hurricanes, is the criminal hypocrisy and madness of the Reagan administration. Hey, we all got our demons.<BR/><BR/>--ERErudite Redneckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04830721195868387265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128314971439568122005-10-03T00:49:00.000-04:002005-10-03T00:49:00.000-04:00Yeah, maybe you and I need to install those Drunk ...Yeah, maybe you and I need to install those Drunk Catchers (as I call them) that Mark and ER have. Seems to stop spam, anyway.rich bachelorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16273482345189891431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128310256236353082005-10-02T23:30:00.000-04:002005-10-02T23:30:00.000-04:00And about the Spam thing, he was hawking a website...And about the Spam thing, he was hawking a website, his comment had really nothing to do with the subject of my post, and he has no blog of his own, so I treated him as spam, interestingly timed as he was.<BR/><BR/>Looked like Spam to me...tugboatcapnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751281215697965077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128309738488359262005-10-02T23:22:00.000-04:002005-10-02T23:22:00.000-04:00And I try not to call names as a regular habit.I w...And I try not to call names as a regular habit.<BR/><BR/>I will occasionally do it, though.<BR/><BR/>My commentors are free to express themselves however they want to, within certain limits.<BR/><BR/>I will occaisionally forgive an incident of name-calling if it is contained in a comment that actually has some substance.<BR/><BR/>If the whole comment consists of nothing but name calling and hatred, I will intervene, and delete the comment. (It happens more often than you know, from both sides...)tugboatcapnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751281215697965077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128309189341917102005-10-02T23:13:00.000-04:002005-10-02T23:13:00.000-04:00Point well taken, Bachelor.I believe that the News...Point well taken, Bachelor.<BR/><BR/>I believe that the News Media went a little more lightly on Clinton than they would have gone on a Republican in the same situation, and certainly more lightly than they have gone on GWB, (who has not been found guilty of any crime...) but this could be a matter of perspective.<BR/><BR/>I still stand by my point.<BR/><BR/>The Dems are trying to use the Tom Delay indictment as an opportunity to apply the label of a "Culture of Corruption" to Republicans, and after the Clinton administration, they have absolutely no room to talk.<BR/><BR/>If Republicans are corrupt, they learned it from the Democrats.tugboatcapnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751281215697965077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128308201062782512005-10-02T22:56:00.000-04:002005-10-02T22:56:00.000-04:00Well, a lot of us did, in fact, stand against him,...Well, a lot of us did, in fact, stand against him, or tried.<BR/>You got that the one up at the top was spam, right? Interestingly timed spam, I'll admit, but I think that it was a random thing.<BR/>But regardless of how I felt, anyone telling me that the media was on his side just wasn't paying attention, or was only paying attention to aspects of the media that spent all their time bashing him, always with the interesting caveat that The Media was giving the guy a smokescreen to hide behind. Bait and switch.<BR/>My problem, as always, is not only with the above reasons, but the far worse things the guy did, that for some reason never get commented on here. <BR/>The list above is pretty bad, I'll grant you, but didn't affect nearly as many people as NAFTA, The Defense of Marriage Act, Welfare "Reform", and the revitalizing of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms into a fightin' wing through which the federal government basically carried out vendettas. That's the short list.<BR/>The bombing of that pharmaceutical factory in Sudan pretty much counts as an atrocity in my book, but I think we've conceded over here that Presidents are often fed bad intelligence, and then when they act on it, are blameless.<BR/>Furthermore, are we in one of those phases of the moon where it's okay to call names again over here? If I used some equivalent of "Nazi Pelosi" in my comments, you guys'd be weeping openly about how mean those nasty liberals are. Consistency, please.rich bachelorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16273482345189891431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128300253362754502005-10-02T20:44:00.000-04:002005-10-02T20:44:00.000-04:00Where are you, Dems??Let's talk about "Cultures of...Where are you, Dems??<BR/><BR/>Let's talk about "Cultures of Corruption"!!tugboatcapnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751281215697965077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128299184047216622005-10-02T20:26:00.000-04:002005-10-02T20:26:00.000-04:00Wha'd Slick Willy do? Try to sell you drugs, or so...Wha'd Slick Willy do? Try to sell you drugs, or something?<BR/><BR/>Try to hook up a threesome with you and the Hildebeast?<BR/><BR/>(Nothing would surprise me...)tugboatcapnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751281215697965077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128298098597711732005-10-02T20:08:00.000-04:002005-10-02T20:08:00.000-04:00"Boehm pointed to NLPC’s successful complaint agai..."Boehm pointed to NLPC’s successful complaint against Pelosi’s leadership PACs earlier this year. He said, “No other member of Congress has ever set up a second leadership PAC to evade contribution limits. Pelosi’s PACs were caught violating the clearest and most basic campaign finance law of all, the limits on contributions.”<BR/><BR/>He continued, “These are not vague or unsubstantiated allegations. These are actual and proven violations of the law. Given the level of Pelosi’s hypocrisy as a champion of what’s called campaign finance reform, they are more serious than anything alleged against DeLay.” "<BR/><BR/>I love that part...<BR/><BR/>Thanks again, Mike!tugboatcapnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751281215697965077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128294660745644402005-10-02T19:11:00.000-04:002005-10-02T19:11:00.000-04:00Oh that one was very instructive... but remind me ...Oh that one was very instructive... but remind me to tell you later... Meanwhile, use your imagination and you can't go far wrong.<BR/><BR/>For more on Nazi Pelosi, try this:<BR/><BR/>http://www.nlpc.org/view.asp?action=viewArticle&aid=685Mike's Americahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01262938295909490454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128292339128404832005-10-02T18:32:00.000-04:002005-10-02T18:32:00.000-04:00Oh, Ho!!Please elaborate, Mike...Oh, Ho!!<BR/><BR/>Please elaborate, Mike...tugboatcapnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751281215697965077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128291980210173012005-10-02T18:26:00.000-04:002005-10-02T18:26:00.000-04:00Thanks for the link, Mike.I am not going to stand ...Thanks for the link, Mike.<BR/><BR/>I am not going to stand by and let my party be labeled a "Culture of Corruption" by the people who seem to have no problem with corruption as long as they are in power.<BR/><BR/>The very attempt is outrageous.<BR/><BR/>I hope that this latest attempt to derail the Republican agenda with an unfounded accusation of corruption inspires a lot of Republicans to stand up and refuse to take it anymore.<BR/><BR/>If you want to point out corruption, There's a lot more of that on the other side than on our side, so let's investigate.<BR/><BR/>Let's drag ALL of the corruption into the light, and punish all guilty parties.<BR/><BR/>GAME ON.tugboatcapnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14751281215697965077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128290004943844932005-10-02T17:53:00.000-04:002005-10-02T17:53:00.000-04:00I had an upclose and personal insight into the Cli...I had an upclose and personal insight into the Clinton magic... just me, Bill and Hill in the middle of a DC side street before he was nominated... Told me all I needed to know...Mike's Americahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01262938295909490454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128281991276086752005-10-02T15:39:00.000-04:002005-10-02T15:39:00.000-04:00And don't forget. The Clinton Administration was s...And don't forget. The Clinton Administration was supported and apologized for by the MSM, so God only knows how much more there was going on there that went unreported.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15633208787250567256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13151172.post-1128279790595831682005-10-02T15:03:00.000-04:002005-10-02T15:03:00.000-04:00Pretty revealing chart is it not?Thanks for inspir...Pretty revealing chart is it not?<BR/><BR/>Thanks for inspiring me to end my procrastination on this subject.<BR/><BR/>Linked to you here:<BR/><BR/>http://mikesamerica.blogspot.com/#112827940867459550Mike's Americahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01262938295909490454noreply@blogger.com